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Edit: Oops. I conflated projects. The toy project actually used a SunPlus MCU, not a Winbond MCU. It was an 8-bit RISC CPU running at 5MHz with 128 bytes RAM and 256KB mask ROM. The ROM held both the program and audio samples. I don't recall what encoding was used for the audio.
RDP 0 - unlocked, all flash/ram is accessible via the debug interface
RDP 1 - flash locked, you can connect a debugger and read out RAM/peripherals, but not flash. This is intended to prevent you from dumping the flash firmware image, but allow you to perform some diagnostics via the debugger.
RDP 2 - everything's locked down. The debugger cannot access RAM, Flash, or other peripherals.
The 3 exploits are roughly:
* In RDP 1, you can't read flash directly, but you can read anything that the firmware puts in RAM. The researchers were able to extract an entire flash firmware image by watching the results of a CRC self-check that the firmware performs upon boot. By resetting the microcontroller and very precisely controlling the amount of time it's allowed to run before halting it and dumping RAM, the researchers were able to back out the firmware image by observing the CRC progression in RAM.
* The researchers noted that the bit patterns used to represent the different RDP levels in flash were sub-optimal in that only a single bit needs to be flipped to downgrade from RDP 2 to RDP 1. By deencapsulating an RDP 2 microcontroller and exposing it to UV using a carefully-constructed mask, they were able to perform such a downgrade.
* The researchers crafted their own SWD debugger interface that performed less initialization than ST's stock debugger and thus didn't immediately lock down a microcontroller in RDP 1 mode when the debugger was attached. With this modified debugger, they discovered that they could issue a flash read that would lock down the micro as expected, but would also occasionally result in the protected flash data actually appearing in the read buffer (likely due to some internal race condition bug in the microcontroller's hardware). Thus it's possible to automate a brute force extraction of the entire flash in RDP 1 mode.
Edit: Changed RDP 2 to RDP 1 in description of 3rd exploit.
Edit: And the reset vector begins with a branch to location 0x001ACA, which is all zeroes, so I'm pretty sure most of the firmware was not read out due to the code protection.
But I don't think that's what you're doing. I think you're hoping to spark a conversation about what REST is and you've given us a few keywords here as examples of what you might expect to come up in this conversation. And this seems perfectly reasonable to me. I would expect that an engineer with relevant experience and an inkling of insightfulness and professional curiosity would be able to hold such a conversation.
I'd be curious to hear the types of responses you're actually getting. I've had to do a lot of interviewing in my career and I've encountered "simple" questions that throw nervous candidates off of their game simply because of a misunderstanding. Sometimes the simplest questions can be the worst because the candidates expect something harder and overthink it. So, you might play with the phrasing a bit, or have different ways of asking it in case they seem to freeze up. For example, "could you name and describe some of the defining properties of a REST API?" or "could you tell me what makes a REST API different from a [SOAP, etc.--pick your favorite alternative] API?"
That said, I would expect a reasonably bright, experienced candidate to understand what you're asking fairly quickly. If you have to re-phrase it 3 times and they're still stuck, they're probably not a good fit.
I worked on the Flip Mino, but as a consultant, not a Pure Digital employee. I followed them fairly closely, but didn't have much inside information, so the above is just my own hypothesis. Though OP's article seems to have come to the same conclusion.
Edit because I posted while running out the door and probably could have explained better: Elsewhere in this thread, dmckeon linked to Spolsky's article on why rewrites are bad. This does a better job than I did of explaining the hidden costs of a software rewrite. In my experience, these costs are rarely tallied up and written down such that they're as visible as, for example, the $50K one spent on creating an injection molding tool, or the millions spent in NRE and component purchases to get an assembly line running. Or even the few thousands spent on a prototype PCBA. In hardware, these capital cost numbers are always in your face. So, even though hardware devs are as bad as software devs in estimating time and accounting for testing, the capital costs provide a built-in, visible incentive to avoid unnecessarily discarding work.
It placed a Minecraft creation into your environment in realtime. Though it seemed mostly like a tech demo without much of a point, it was pretty impressive when I played with it.
I can say that, in my company, when business was slower, we would often see the same few people constantly without work because they were either too inexperienced, too limited in their capabilities, or too inflexible in what they were willing to do.
We worked hard to try to give them opportunities--having them shadow more senior engineers on projects (the extra project help also gave our clients more bang for their buck and made us look even better as a group), getting them training, having them work on internal projects, etc. Not all companies will or can go this extra mile to find opportunities for you, but might be receptive if you structure and propose something that uses your down time to your mutual benefit.
If they're not receptive, or if you can't structure something like this in your environment, then you might consider moving on.
Edit: Actually, as others are mentioning, it was also way easier to staff people who were actively involved in the sales phase of a program. Volunteering to do research, prototypes, etc. was a great way for motivated people to help out during this phase. Since they were effectively already working on the program by the time it started, they were usually the ones who would wind up staffed on the program.
I think we are saying similar things though. I worked on this project with Verdigris (though I was not personally responsible for the design of these probes) and, to your original point, the challenge is fitting these at a reasonable cost while achieving the desired accuracy. I guess I'm so used to low manufacturing costs being a given that I tend to focus more on the other aspects of the problem.
It sounds like your acquaintances are targeting service technicians, not necessarily factory workers, so the above examples might not apply, but I'd imagine their targeted industry has its own ergonomic concerns.
Sorry to ramble at you. Just excited because it sounds cool.