justsomejew

"Conspired with the nazis to divide Europe" - was pushed to reach an agreement with Germany by the other parties, Soviet Union did realize the danger of the nazi regime, and this was not the preferred course, even for Stalin's regime.

"Used only sarcastically in Eastern Europe"

You just forgot to add "after decades of antirussian propaganda". And still, there are people who don't think about it sarcastically at all, they just are not allowed to speak (if they don't want to lose work, or to get processed by the state for "negating history").

As for the rest go and get the skeletons out from your own closet, there are plenty of them there.

26 million people killed in Soviet Union. Jews massacred in Lithuania, Latvia, Ukraine by the local population (not all of them participated, but your current friends ideological fathers did). Only in Leningrad's blocade 2 million people died.

It was the Soviet Army which liberated Auschwitz, Soviet Army which crushed the nazi war machine starting from Stalingrad.

And these are the main points which your nauseating antirussian propaganda pretends as if it does not exist. And the rest, some of it happened, some of it did not. And wikipedia is not a reliable source for historic events, itis full of propaganda as most educated people realize.

[Just saw that this comment got hidden; if it was not so dangerous, one could have only laughed at how the "free speech" warriors want to suppress other people's views. Nothing new of course.]

You seem to suggest the other person does not think it is wrong to massacre civilians. Where have you seen that?

And the point about "whataboutism" is very much true: used as a tool to silence people who dare to think differently.

Well, counting the number of "non trolls" here, and my own three comments, surely shows the Russian hords in action ;)

Of course, of course.. still, strangely I see online other kinds of "armies" much more often.. and the scale, in this case, is indeed of armies..

I think that Orwell understood his own people much more than Russians, so it might be useful, while reading him, to take a look at the mirror as well..

I am quite sure that these "mysterious drones" which the western services "cannot identify" is yet another "false flag" as you like to call them, to justify investing hindreds of billions (maybe also these stolen from Russia) into a future war against Russia which the west is feverishly preparing. Territory, natural resources, this is what it is about. Always is, always has been.

It is not Russia's aggression "against the west", it is your aggression against Russia, and in general against Russians, since the west organized the Kiev's coup at 2014 (renember the Odessa May 2014 pogrom at the Unions House against people opposing to "Maidan", for which none, or almost none, got punished, or the murders by ucranian services at Mariupol, of which most of the westerners did not hear at all). Ucrainian war is just the logical outcome, were it not for your built-in dishonesty and hypocrisy which make it seem as a spontaneous aggression against a peaceful neighbour.

(I am not saying this is the whole story. But the main part of it, yes.)

If you don't mind telling about it, who or what helped you?

I think you are a real person, still you sound like a broken record.. "disinformation..", "propaganda".. "bad actors"..

You are the "bad actors", pumpkin. Worse than the other ones.

Stalin's repressions toll, whether in Gulag camps, forced labor or mass executions, was in the millions; though not tens of millions, as americans and their mercenaries from ex Soviet republics like to tell. The conditions in Gulag camps in Stalin's time, and also quite a bit after, were horrible.

"raped most of the women.."

Told that way, this is libel, one which the german revanchism very fond of. Not that people like you would care.

Yes, cherrypicking the pact when the relevant part is the international context back then.. Soviet Union had to defend itself not only from nazi Germany.

To remind you of western capitalists helping the nazis? Of the British royal family ties to the nazis?

Ok, they "essentially had racial laws", with Gelfand and Landau being godlike in the Soviet science, Kantorovich having his prizes, not speaking of the jews with the title of "Hero of Soviet Union". Not speaking of people who founded the Israeli science (together with jews from other European countrues). Where did they go to university? In some parallel world?

This is not to negate the facts, but to put things in perspective.

Yes

Again, cannot reply directly. What I said was false, is saying, or suggesting, that what happened to the jews in Soviet Union was like what happened to the jews in nazi Germany. It was not.

By this I am not negating not Stalin repressions, not the "Doctors affair", not the fact that many gifted people could not realize their potential in a way they could have had otherwise.

"Most people do not know much about the life in Soviet Union"

Well, I was born there, and I think that limiting the comparison to your homeless people is maybe comforting for an american, but is a distorted view.

To the person who replied, saying "some engineering paths were barred". I have not negated the facts, just tried to put them in true perspective, which I think is lacking in your response.

Easy to claim, only that the claim is false. It was not so much about jews being jews (would you claim that there were no jews in science, engineering, hospitals?). Having quotas in top universities is what you try to do now with asian students (by this I do not mean to negate the fact that lives of many jews were ruined because of these quotas). And the true nature of "Zionism" can be seen by everyone today. The "zionists" do not even try to hide it. I mean Zionism in the "Zeev" Zhabotinskiy sense. Go read his "Wall of Iron".

Nazis had racial laws. As you did, by the way, just not towards jews, remember? Something which the communists have not done. And I think it ruins your theory, as well as the communusm equals nazism equation, so beloved by your propaganda

Well, the very real absurdities and nightmare of your "way of life", you don't see them as well. What happens now in Gaza? Do you "see" it?

The fact that you cannot even see how ridiculuous this piece of propaganda is, says also about your ability to reason. The great demographic drop in the Soviet Union happened after the WWII (you remember that Soviet Union defeated the nazis, right?), but even that was not "170 million people" and was due to the war started by the nazis (whatever your propaganda claims about that).

Communism was quite different from nazism, whatever they tell and told you in the west. You just did not live there, and some people rewrote the history for you. Equating communism and nazism is one of the most abominable aspects of western propaganda

And I think you missed something as well

I dont know how your life is, but my own impression is that life of many americans is worse than the life which was in the Soviet Union at least until the 80s (after Stalin). Maybe not in the sense of the capacity to buy junkfood and other junk, but as to sense of living and human relations. "Mollusk" sounds as the usual american antirussian propaganda.