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You may find this talk[1] interesting.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLt_yDvdeLQ&ab_channel=TEDxT...

Doesn't it break net neutrality ?

Discipline functions, floating point arithmetic, compound data types etc. Original KornShell is still more powerful programming langauge than bash.

Link[1] to announcement on mailing list.

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/korn-shell/7VAqQg1N5D8/XniWn...

> Which "millions of lines of code" are compatible with POSIX without having any Linux or macOS specific code?

Those layers would have to be reimplemented to retain compatibility.

> I think you're hugely overstating the importance of POSIX.

People generally understate importance of POSIX, just because it's old. It's impossible to get APIs perfect and you are throwing away decades of work in the name of getting APIs "right". No one is going to rewrite everything from scratch, just because the new APIs look shiny. For reference read about Unix wars[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars

It's not and eventually they will have to find ways to provide POSIX compatibility, it can happen through a separate compatiblity layer or a library. You don't want to break compatibility with millions of lines of already written code if you want widespread adoption. No one is going to rewrite everything from scratch, just because Google says so.

> Rust is developed by a community, and was started by Mozilla. Go development seems to be de facto controlled by Google, who originated the language. I'd rather bet my non-work future on a language that isn't controlled by a huge corporation, especially one of the main players in today's surveillance economy.

Anyone else agree with this view ? Programming languages should be choosen based on technical merits, rather than who is behind it. Is there a lesson from history that I am missing ?

> Unleashed is an operating system fork of illumos,

Can someone explain why it was forked ?

> How does this even make sense ?

Google is highly influential in how information is consumed and distributed. People use chrome to browse web, google search for searching information etc. If they have major control over how information is distributed, they have major control over the web. Ofcourse there are other similar services that are not provided by Google, but they are very less influential due to lack of users.

> You should be scared of walled gardens displacing the web.

What if web becomes a walled garden ? Look at what Google did with DRM[1], even Mozilla had to give up their efforts to fight against it[2]. How could that be possible without having a major influence over the web ?

[1] https://boingboing.net/2017/01/30/google-quietly-makes-optio... [2] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challen...

I suspect they will end up in the same situation as they did with Motorola more than a decade ago, until someone reminds them that the people who are serious about software should make their own hardware.

Video lectures from MIT course with same name are available here[1]. Few lectures are given by Leiserson, who is one of the authors of this book.

[1] http://videolectures.net/mit6046jf05_introduction_algorithms...

This is going to be interesting. I believe instead of pushing everyone to use https this will cause an average user to start ignoring the security warning. I see the security warning as a way to reflect what's insecure and not a catalyst to move to more secure methods.

fish is released under GPLv2 and afaik Apple has a policy to not include any new GPL software in macOS.

Reading recent discussions around Apple reminds me of this story[1]. I will not be surprised if marketing people are the ones who are affecting software quality.

[1] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~chuck/jokepg/joke_19970213_01.txt

I was doing lot of refactoring around ksh93 code and legacy build system was not really helpful in detecting problems. It was best to change it.

> a new build system replacing one that already worked fine.

Have you actually tried the legacy build system before making that comment ? If not, I would suggest you to try that. It's by far the worst build system I ever dealt with. Just to give you an example, if there's a compilation failure in the middle of build process, build system will not stop, it will continue to compile everything that it should not compile and then exit with status 0. There was an absolute need to replace it with something newer.

Replacing the build system is just the first step towards improving the code base and it's not the end of it.

Carl Boenish, who is considered father of modern base jumping, died while performing a base jump next day after marking his name in Guinness World Records. 'Sunshine Superman'[1] a documentary made on his life and death is worth watching.

[1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1322313/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Here is the announcement on mailing list:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2016-09/msg00018....

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2016-09/msg00019....

I could not find any books that you have personally recommended reading at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11803165. It might be because there would be too many of them. I would be specifically interested in computers category.

I missed that post somehow. Thanks! :)

Hi Alan,

You have an interesting reading list at http://www.squeakland.org/resources/books/readingList.jsp. However it seems that it was created long time back. Are there any other books that you would like to add to this list ?

Jolla's Sailfish Browser is based on Gecko http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-brow...

It uses custom APIs to embedd Gecko with Qt : https://github.com/tmeshkova/qtmozembed https://github.com/tmeshkova/embedlite-components https://github.com/tmeshkova/gecko-dev

I see an ad if I click on the page.

Here is an interesting talk by Jeff Hawkins - http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_hawkins_on_how_brain_science_w...

Yes. We are introducing PPA with this release. You can read the announcement at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=315735...

Please explain your problem in detail. If possible, open an issue on GitHub (https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues)

Alright. I have updated the issue on GitHub with this information. Let's continue discussing it there.

When you click on Linux tab under 'Go fish' section, it will list the Linux packages.

Those files are executables. There is a function 'ls' which wraps ls command and adds --indicator-style=classify parameter to make output more readable.

So it looks like the keys to which fish is trying to bind the mappings are not available on your system. I have opened an issue for you at https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/1068 , we will be following up on that. I would appreciate more inputs about your setup. For e.g. version of OS X, your terminal, keyboard type etc.