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"Program: Please speak your name as it appears on your current federal identity card. Document number G24L8.
Joe: I'm not sure if—
Program: You have entered the name 'Not Sure'. Is this correct, Not Sure?
Joe: No, it's not correct.
Program: Thank you. 'Not' is correct. Is 'Sure' correct?
Joe: No it's not. My name is Joe—
Program: You've already confirmed your first name is 'Not'. Please confirm your last name 'Sure'.
Joe: My last name is not 'Sure'.
Program: Thank you, 'Not Sure'."
Idiocracy [Film, 2006]
If you get an incurable urge to inform me that #!&%!! (or something else), you can try directing such to this location: joe axt conceptary doxt coxm (sans x). I may respond.
There is a rumor that Electron calls to redirect.gvt1.com (a google site) means that Google somehow spies on you. But all available information indicates that redirect.gvt1.com is a site responsible for providing downloads(spellchecker data for example), not uploads.
If you have information to the contrary, please provide.
Hey a goat actually died you know
[0] > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative.
I propose that it cuts deeper than that. Many of us 'nerds' have/have had a love affair of sorts with computers and software, deeply rooted in our personalities: ambiguity no more, what you put in is what you get out. Not like the messy social interactions where things can hold a multitude of meanings simultaneously, and where none of those meanings need to be true in a logical sense. The strict logic of programming is being dethroned, in favor of prompts that can be ill-written and ambiguous as hell, but the damn things still produce approximately what the vibe-coder was thinking, at a fraction of the cost.
Of course there will be a place for old school good programmers, just like a fine carpenter will always be in demand, no matter how many new Ikeas spring up. But we used to be kings.
I think the most comforting thing to be said is that all things must pass, new things bring new opportunities and everyone need to adjust, always. It is still a bit hazy what those opportunities are in general though.
You use a cookie CMP (Consent Management Platform - Google's?) that asks for permission for 122 vendors to harvest my personal information. There is no 'Reject all' button, and one has to tediously scroll through a potentially long list of pre-checked so-called 'legitimate' interests in order to reject all, a 'dark pattern' cookie harvesting, which goes against your 'privacy first' expressed goal.
If you just want the feedback from this community I suggest you remove any analytics from the site, there are likely many here that simply turn back when presented with this CMP.
But it is sad if good programmers should loose sight of the opportunities the future will bring (future as in the next few decades). If anything, software expertise is likely to be one of the most sought-after skills - only a slightly different kind of skill than churning out LOCs on a keyboard faster than the next person: People who can harness the LLMs, design prompts at the right abstraction level, verify the code produced, understand when someone has injected malware, etc. These skills will be extremely valuable in the short to medium term AFAICS.
But ultimately we will obviously become obsolete if nothing (really) catastrophic happens, but when that happens then likely all human labor will be obsolete too, and society will need to be organized differently than exchanging labor for money for means of sustenance.
The advice I got when scouring the internets was primarily to close everything except the file you’re editing and maybe one reference file (before asking Claude anything). For added effect add something like 'Only use the currently open file. Do not read or reference any other files' to the prompt.
I don't have any hard facts to back this up, but I'm sure going to try it myself tomorrow (when my weekly cap is lifted ...).
But maybe we should cherish these people. Maybe it's among them we find the embryo to the resistance - people who held out when most of us were seduced - seduced into giving the machine all our knowledge, all our skills, all the secrets about us we were not even aware of ourselves - and setting it up to be orders of magnitude more intelligent than any of us, combined. And finally - just as mean, vindictive and selfish as most of the people in the training data on which it was trained.
Maybe it's good to stay skeptical a bit longer.
The idea is still valid though - user generated content which evaluates and provides feedback to other users and producers through which quality floats to the top. The "only" piece missing is how to protect against various vested interests that pull in other directions ...
But as this last point illuminates, just because the end of times prophecies have been crying wolf for thousands of years doesn't mean we can discard it. We may yet be obliterated, be it by galopping climate change, a meteor shattering our planet, have a lethal pandemic, or have nuclear war lay most of earth inhabitable. These are realistic threats, and people have probably always been aware that our exitence is fragile. All we can (and should) do is do our best to mitigate them.
What we definately should *not* do, is to try and make these things happen, just so that we may (or may not) live forever in a blissful afterlife. Or (and this is the main problem) suspend mitigating efforts because they are inconvenient in the short perspective. Just sayin.
I guess ethical and practical considerations aside (you'd have to find participants that agreed to the experiment, as well as having no grieving and potentially experiment-disturbing kin by the bedside): conducting such experiments would not earn you any positive citations from other scientists who largely try to steer clear of anything that smacks of spirits.
Plus, what if Duncan MacDougall's claim is proven correct?
While I think that is a profound insight that we should contemplate a lot more than we do instead of taking our value system (the one we all share, not only the ones we disagree with) for granted, I can't help also contemplate how inadequate, or underdeveloped, our language is as a tool to identify such. Hopefully, some day we will have more value-neutral means to properly view the relative isolated conceptual bubbles from which each culture views another. We're not there yet.
But the hard truth is that value systems are objectively subjective, and people can be confused, ignorant, frustrated, angry, insane, devoid of empathy, people we don't like, or our enemies - but not evil. It's time to let that term into the dustbin of history.