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tangled_zans

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tangled_zans··on How Theranos Misled Me
Theranos has been the only biotech firm that I've seen mentioned on the news lately.

Is there anything GOOD happening in biotech right now?

tangled_zans··on Ask HN: What is the logic behind closing comments after certain period
How long does it take for comments in an HN thread to become closed?
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
I referred to the OP with a gendered pronoun because he misnamed Caitlyn and it is well known that men are more likely to mislabel trans women, as well as more likely to be trolls online - as you are being now, so I assume that you are male too. I will leave you to it now, well done for your little essay.
tangled_zans··on Reflecting on Haskell in 2015
Please do, I would totally read something like that.
tangled_zans··on Reflecting on Haskell in 2015
What an excellent linking of groups to monads, I really enjoyed reading this! Thanks for writing it up.
tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
How about we take it a step forward and say "woman caused two developers to be fired"?

Or even better.

"A person at a tech conference caused two developers to be fired".

That way we can judge the situation within its own context, rather than letting our own affiliations or views bias us.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
I think the OP has made his point quite well already, and I understood him. No need for added outrage.
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Yes I think I've already reached an understanding with the OP, but thanks for chiming in.
tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
Replying here cos I can't reply to your other comment.

Either I have been so bad at communicating my point that it came out as garbled nonsense or you've confused me with someone else.

I am all for people being able to downvote whoever they want without needing to explain themselves. The only reason I mentioned being downvoted at all - by 1 guy, I think - was to point out that the same people complaining that they are being "unfairly downvoted for having controversial opinions" have no qualms about downvoting people with opposing views. Which, in my eyes, is hypocritical.

tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
I've noticed that any time a debate of this sort comes up, and someone states a strong view supporting either side, the other side will start downvoting them. That's usually counteracted by their own side upvoting them back up.

It happens to everyone, so it annoys me when I see people complaining about it in every HN thread that has divided opinions on some social justice movement or whatever.

There's no "Please explain why you've chosen to up/down vote" pop up on HN, so no one really owes anyone an explanation for it either. That's just how things are.

tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
Great article.

Odd though that so many commenter choose to interpret this as "look! clear proof that there is no sexism! everyone has been overreacting about it!"

If you don't believe that sexism is a real issue, look at source [0]. It says so right there:

"While women have gained many more rights and freedoms in most of the developed world, especially since the beginning of the 20th century, women still face discrimination and harassment worldwide. Until then, women in most of the world did not have the right to vote, and were treated with even greater disrespect than today."

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman

tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
Yes, "she cost them their jobs". That's a "valid interpretation" of the story.
tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
"You didn't actually cubano's point. You're straight so you weren't attracted to any of the guys who approached you. cubano was saying it would be different if you were approached by a woman you were interested in. Perhaps the indirectness would seem coy instead of creepy."

Maybe the women that cubano observed were not attracted to any of the guys that cubano saw approach them either? Maybe they weren't attracted to them because they were actually creepy?

I have never seen a woman treat a friendly guy who approached her as creepy just because the guy wasn't "attractive" to her, unless that guy was only being "friendly" in his own mind and actually acting very sleazy.

tangled_zans··on My positive experience as a woman in tech
It's not about disagreement. The poster put "scare quotes" around sexism, implying that the issue does not even exist or is worth discussing.

That's not an "opinion" it's an implicit way of saying that everyone talking about it is kind of dumb for even bringing it up.

EDIT: OH WOW, I HAVE BEEN DOWNVOTED. Which is not something I normally care about since I post quite controversial things anyway. But downvoted by the same people complaining about being "unfairly downvoted by others"? The hypocrisy of you.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Hmm, you are right, I read into it a bit too much.

Like I said, I felt insulted by you labelling my off-hand comment as "outrage", especially after you agreed that I was factually correct.

In hindsight I can see why you took offence to my original comment, but there is a massive difference in connotation between saying "I am offended" and "you are outraged". [0]

As I am a big proponent of free speech online, your implication of what I should and should not be able to say has been quite vexing to me, hence my annoyance. But I shouldn't have conflated that with whatever your views on trans women are.

[0] http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2164

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
I acknowledge that this is how libertarians see themselves, but it is inherently dishonest to assume that just because someone disagrees with you then they're doing it out of a misunderstanding and overreaction about you "trying to dismantle all of their 'noble' ideas".

Their values can simply be different, and it is valid for them to disagree with you based on the conclusions they get from those values.

Aggression is defined differently by different groups after all, so the set of actions that a libertarian objects to based on their understanding of "aggression" would be different to a set of actions that someone else would object to based on a different understanding of "aggression".

Obviously you disagree with their conclusion of dismissing libertarianism and blocking libertarians, and that's fine. What's less fine - in my eyes - is to imply that the disagreement comes from the fact that you are the only one who understands some basic Truth about the world and those that disagree are foolish and cliche for disagreeing with you.

That's the sort of thing that I associate with religion, rather than an honest intellectual discussion of political merits of an ideology.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
The initial comment was just a joke, mate (clearly you're the one choosing to be outraged over my tone?) which came out of my assumption that it's impossible to both know that she is transgender and that she does not want to be called Bruce.

If that was indeed an honest error then you could have elaborated on how it was possible for you to hold both of these contradicting views simultaneously, and I would have admitted that I was wrong to assume that you were a prick.

Since instead of doing that you've decided to deflect with "STOP WITH THE OUTRAGE THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!", I did surmise that you are simply not aware of what 'respect' is. Hence while it was wrong of me to take on that role of 'teaching' it to you (what a waste of effort), I stand by my implication that someone should have done that by now.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Yes, that was indeed the case.

Surely if I made a factual error on something that you were knowledgeable on - say, NodeJS - and you corrected me, you'd be slightly peeved - or at least see my behavior as odd - if I replied to you claiming that your friendly input was "outrage".

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Huh. Well, I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that it's probably some other aspect of libertarianism that offended them. Just saying.

Unless they're actually offended by non-violence, in which case they probably did you a favor.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
What outrage? Simply teaching you some respect, as well as some factual accuracy.
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
(Caitlyn. Caitlyn Jenner. Surely the definition of "transgender" couldn't have eluded you while you were making a point about her being transgender?)
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
You have 1400 karma, how did you not figure out what the downvote button is for up until now?
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Expressing your opinions today is a pretty big thing too!

For example, here's mine: In my opinion when some dude enters a conversation and calls a huge chunk of the people in it "intellectually lazy and weak", that dude is kind of an asshole, and probably thinks that he is way smarter than he actually is.

tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
What is your political affiliation that you shared? I am curious to know if I would empathise with someone wanting to delegate blocking people with your affiliation by a communal block list.
tangled_zans··on I was denied admission to a PhD program because of my perceived political views
Way to have a holier-than-though attitude right off the bat. "Oh, look at me, I am so misunderstood for having OPINIONS"

Your opinions are that it's OK to casually look down on people for having political views. I think that's a legit reason for someone to think that your opinions are full of it and are worth downvoting.

tangled_zans··on Slack Platform Launch
I've never used Slack, but people keep saying that it's good because of the apps. What sort of apps are those?
tangled_zans··on Slack Platform Launch
That, and "Soviets are going to launch satellites loaded with nuclear weapons into space and end the cold war".
tangled_zans··on Flint, MI: So much lead in children’s blood, state of emergency declared
You do realize how ridiculous that statement is? Even if you compare Arkasas to New York, the difference won't be as tenth as striking as if you compare a random city from Ukraine to Sweden.
tangled_zans··on Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy
That's a great idea. It makes a massive difference too when the prof remembers your name, I bet your students appreciate it.
tangled_zans··on Anki – a program which makes remembering things easy
Yeah, I was a bit too negative with my feedback, on second reading you are right.
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