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If forced to breaking up Google should stop giving free services in EU including OS, Browser, Map, Search and any other free service. And charge EU users for each of these services which are top or only one in respective categories. These services are free due to Ad business which is best and can make money to fund other free services. Let EU pay for crappy services built by their own mediocre companies like Nokia which can't compete in market so force regulations.

What is EU doing to to curb European monopolies ? Oh wait there are not many.... cause they can't innovate and compete. Easy to be complain than build something to compete.

What's your opinion? Why are there so many Indian origin CEO of Fortune 500 companies?

Skeptics will say Indian origin immigrants are highest but same is true for other immigrants. And they are also competing with citizens too.

Behind Paywall : https://archive.ph/A0Hey

I guess nobody really wants to solve this problem. Number of responses on this thread shows truly how many people truly care about gun violence and mass shootings.

If not enough majority people care to fix this issue then it will be part of life and just need to learn to live with it. Just like being careful and defensive driver while driving on road.

Apologies. Please ignore, didn't categorize everybody in one bucket. Asking everyone to comment.

Are there any studies showing if people carry guns always to all places there is reduction in shooting? I guess one point in favor is there are no mass shootings in military or police offices.

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  People want free stuff and then complain if some entity asks help.

  How's seeking unpaid help digital slavery? You must be very charitable person.

  And FYI here are some definitions from dictionary, in case you meant something else by "digital slavery" 

slavery : the state of being a slave. slave : a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.

It's giving free services. What about that? And, not just this one company many other trillion $$ market caps give free and paid services and also welcome free feedback.

When you comment on Yelp, Google Maps review, YouTube it's same.

None of the FAANG companies are cartel or forcing any users to use their products at gun point.

Don't like their products then don't use it. Use alternative.

They built one of the best products hence most of the world is using it.

They are not forcing anybody to contribute, it's free and at will, just like community garden. Even walking in garden is not free, cause somebody's tax money is at use. If you are not paying taxes.

They do provide many free services. Google Maps being one of them, you liked their product and used it and it was very useful hence you contributed back to improve it.

If you had paid for their services then you could complain but if you are using it for free then don't use it for free and then complain. You could always use other products or paid products like GPS from garmin.

I don't understand why so much hate towards companies which are supporting free products and enriching lives of billions of people.

If these free products were not there can you imagine how so many poor people across globe could afford free internet technologies?

// Not google employee, opinions are mine.

Downvoting if commented or voiced in favor of tech companies. Hacker news is becoming more extremist like Brietbart.

Really sad and unfortunate.

Yahoo! and MSFT tried doing same, selling Bing search ads on Yahoo ad exchange. Didn't work well and can't scale it. And these are Google innovation why should they not use it.

Is it fair to ask some other ad exchanges to run ads on NYTimes or CNN, Fox news?

How are you going to support innovation and free product for those who can't afford across the world without online advertising?

Search is very expensive business to run Yahoo! and MSFT tried and still they are at behind. Will you pay $$ for each search query? Easy to asking breaking up these companies. Will you help all small business and companies relying on free internet products?

Google, Facebook and other many tech companies are providing many free services which has led to so many new business, innovations and employment and these free services could cost a lot of money if not funded by advertising.

These companies are not selling drugs like Purdue pharma or exploiting Weapons, natural resource like water or Oil or causing pollution or causing deaths.

All those who are complaining against these companies and online advertising ask yourself do you want to live in 1990's world without free communication and technological advancement? If yes, then be honest to yourself and stop using any free products provided by these companies and derived products such as Uber, Doordash etc.

It's easy to complain against those who are doing good.

There are so many other bigger problems to solve instead these money making job providing companies are being targeted. Such a shame.

Another explanation of why Germany doesn't have silicon valley rivals?

Privacy is fundamental human right. Don't need to be interesting person.

All good at home, thanks for asking.

Just pointing out that it's easy to point fingers and criticize. If you really believe in values or a cause then work for it. Right? Both Apple and Signal whom you are criticizing are doing much better for humanity than Zynga.

Care to share evidence before making such allegations.

Better than Zynga, right? Corporation which has leaked kids data. Clones games, manipulates kids and adults in spending thousands of $$$ on virtual things, screwed employees from stock compensation.

It's easy to criticize, right? Signal and Apple are at-least doing better than Zynga.

How do you suggest any corporation to not cooperate with government agencies? For US based businesses it's illegal, right?

And, how's this Apple's problem or fault? Vote and elect your interest. If you live in democratic country then vote and elect sensible smart honest representatives who will protect your interest.

In car entertainment provided by car makers have app ecosystem and fully controlled by car makers.

Why doesn't EU force European automakers with same laws?

Users need to pay extra to even use freely provided Apple CarPlay on BMW.

European Car makers have monopoly in the app ecosystem installed in the cars. Where is alternative App store for BMW, Benz, Audi, VW ?

It's HW made by private corporation with their own SW and they can insist rules to make sure HW and SW systems are not abused so that most of the users get better user experience. They (Apple) are doing this to protect their users. If you don't agree with it don't buy their HW.

Can you install applications from third party providers on other app bases HW? such as Gaming (XBox, Playstation, Nintendo) Cars (Tesla, Benz, Nissan)

Or in non SW/HW world can you force stores such as Walmart, HomeDepot, Macys, Nordstorm to sell goods from third party seller? And, even these stores charge fees for selling items made by other manufacturers.

If you don't like ecosystems made by Google and Apple don't buy their HW/SW.

If these so called underpaid contractors skilled enough they can definitely look for another job or try to get hired directly in Google or other companies. - Nobody has forced them to slave at contracting positions. - Contracting positions definitely pays better than flipping burgers - It's about supply and demand - If they have skills in demand they will get paid well.

I am sure you also outsource some aspect of your life as it's either not your core skills or expertise, similarly nothing wrong if these big tech outsource non core business aspect to contractors. In capitalist society it's government's job to set rules so that underclass employees are not exploited. Not corporations.

Thanks for responding and starting. Really great and detailed answer. Why do you think ceiling is at about 40-50$/hour? Have you ever worked from outside US? How does tax filing works? I have been thinking of moving to some good asian country (Thailand,Malaysia) and work remotely.

He is not working at entry level engineering positions.He mentioned 4 years experience.

Can you please specify which domain? tech stack used, programming language, technology etc.

@OP Why is this post on HN? Please stop posting just to promote your agenda. This is not Reddit. Unfortunately I feel visiting HN is now lot of waste of time. I wish somebody from YC or HN does something about this soon.

Strange nobody listed Apple Inc.

I would like to propose for HN open source project for developing a content curation system.

It's possible to infer and rank submitted link content automatically. This will help in removing completely irrelevant postings (e.g this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6942656 ).

Quora is doing something like this but it is targeted towards much wider audience. Whereas HN is focused on a special goal in mind so it can not be generalized for all kind of discussions.