tyrabound

private and anonymous, especially from the government are two totally separate things.

If I am understanding Taler, it is not like cash coins/paper where the government does not and has no way to know that you, e.g., bought a bottle of wine from a vintner with cash, and that vintner can use that bill/coins in many different ways and the gov't has essentially no way to trace or track that.

The way I am seeing it... please correct me where I'm not understanding something... the Taler architecture would require you to pay cash into an exchange, then you extract (likely IDs/tagged/marked) Taler, you then pay that Taler to a merchant, e.g., who by policy cannot remain anonymous, and that merchant deposits that market Taler into the exchange. So in that scenario, what has happened is that the Taler the merchant received "privately" is clearly associated with the Taler you extracted from the exchange to pay the Taler deposited by the Vintner.

It's maybe private in that the Vintner does not need to know who you are, but you can bet the control freak tyrants in the government will know that you bought that wine.

So what you may say, wine is fine, but what if it's something the government doesn't want you doing, buying, supporting? Maybe wine is now illegal because {fill in the reason}, maybe you are not sufficiently obedient and compliant during an "emergency" and need to be cut off? Maybe you are sanctioned by the EU and all your money is taken and you have no means of even feeding yourself other than the "humanitarian" limit of living on €200/month and you can't even return to your native Switzerland from Brussels because you are not allowed on trains, planes, or allowed to drive across borders like happened to Jaques Baud for speech some tyrannical EU politician or bureaucrat did not like?

I thought you were going to give up and put the sex toys in something else. Glad you are only going to put them in the parlor window.

That is not clearly to me in that way that, nor is corporations getting away with crimes some kind of new thing that AI will make easier, more, or somehow insulates or distances them.

I see a future where AI permits a massive leveling or resources that were required and allowed corporation to insulate and distance themselves in the past. We are in a situation where individual people can do immense amount of work with a few agents. You may say "well, so can all the individuals in corporations", but I could see how corporations were operating not only close to a limit, but the very immense resource constraints of getting access to, parsing, and margin sense of data/information was extremely difficult in the not at all recent past. Just 4 years ago it was still immensely difficult finding the right data/information, let alone parsing it, properly displaying and relating it, analyzing it, and daring conclusions and knowledge from it.

There are some people who are already using AI to investigate people, organizations, networks, and things that relied on that secrecy by obscurity and hiding behind the massive resource constraints.

Just an example, remember the Panama papers and how it took many journalists many months to individually parse and relate all the information; and I am sure they totally missed things their human minds simply could not fully relate or patterns they could not identify. AI can do all that in seconds as you know and with the right conditions, you can even have it highlight things that you didn't know. Frankly, I was not a fan of the gatekeeping of the various releases of that kind of data, including things like the Snowden releases, because I guarantee it was also a partial limitation operation by intel agencies, but if that information and data were released publicly, unreacted, AI could definitely have helped people highlight and identify things that are probably still hidden and were simply overlooked by the hand full of journalists and the data analysis people they hired to make sense of things.

As long as a corporation is a shield to commit crimes with impunity, nothing will change. We really need to reassess this perverse concept of a corporation where you can simply commit crimes against people, personally profit, yet never be personally held responsible, let alone accountable.

The same thing is causing problems in the financial markets right now, with massive zombie company portfolios of various private equity firms still paying out fees to the managers to siphon off the debt and assets of investors.

This is a bit old but I will just add that I don't think that would be adequate. I know of several Congress creatures and their families who deliberately, intentionally, willingly and with a political plan in mind to send their children to "war". Of course it is usually in some specialized capacity where they are safe and also generate some prestige, e.g., Air Force, intel, etc. for their inevitable political career.

Sadly, they care less about their own children usually than if you made it far simpler, simply make the full cost of any war totally and solely payable by the ruling/upper classes through both immense taxation on their income, i.e., 90% and a wealth tax of 10%, total forfeiture of all assets if they is any attempt to hidden them and are not reported, and a bounty of 50% for discovery of any unreported assets.

Now THAT would end all wars everywhere, except it would likely also cause the money to try to escape to a place that does not have such policies and use that as a base of operations to build/raise a force of subversion, infiltration, corruption, etc.

Frankly, people really have very little understanding of the "shape" of what they are up against. It's often dismissed and I don't even think the people who call it "spiritual warfare" really understand it either, but it is essentially a power, a force that has been often described, but never defined or identified properly that is essentially an abstraction, a graph, more an amorphous fluid dynamic than a material thing. If you know anyone that is an extremely manipulative narcissist and pathological and deliberate, psychopathic liar, you have come face to face with the constantly shifting, ducking, weaving, and orchestrating nature of the system that so many are hard pressed to understand because it is not a line of men on a battlefield, it is not a missile, it is not even "money" it is data, digital transactions of "currency", information as currency... the life blood of manipulation, abuse, and evil.

There is actually credible evidence that it's way more than $95B medicare fraud. There is an interesting introduction into the issue by a YT called Coffeezilla [1] and there is an interesting effort by the folks at Effort.news [2] the are getting access to government data and working out just how much fraud and waste there is.

It seems to blow people's minds to accept things like "how can there be $100B in medicare fraud alone every single year", but that's really just what the government even roughly admits to or can easily identify because it is so blatant that they can't ignore it, not even some of the other obvious stuff that Coffeezilla talks about that should be blatantly obvious to the point that SWAT teams are sent in immediately (like the two top billing companies for certain medicare treatments being based in the same strip-mall, right next to each other and both being empty/vacant).

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eWJISlh0fw [2] https://www.effort.news

No, I do not assume that. I am sure that some may even outright not want it, most definitely benefit from it and the whole system based in profiting from harmful, destructive, detrimental things like war; and ,regardless, they are the top ~5% (or make it the top 3% or 1% if you like) and therefore are the leaders, the captains, the responsible, the accountable ones, those where the buck actually stops. They want all the benefits of robbing, plundering, and generally abusing without consequences, the last and very most basic thing we should be demanding and expecting is that if you cause or are responsible for the detrimental thing, you at least have to pay for it.

What you appear not to realize is the real fraud of this whole fake system; where the top defraud everyone else with "money printing", which they then use to bail out themselves and spend through government spending, which goes to themselves also through several channels like giving it to the bottom, which spends it on products/service that percolate up, on nepotistic corrupt government contracts to themselves, etc.

That's why the amount of government spending and debt is in direct lockstep with the accumulation of wealth of the top whatever percentage you want to use as a cutoff.

It's more complex than that, but that's the simplest form and most people don't even have a clue that even that is how the system actually works. They just see the inflation that causes products to get more expensive as their money is being defrauded away through essentially counterfeiting.

I really hope people can get angry on a level that would melt a star ... and not turn their despair on themselves right when they should be getting so intensely angry at those who are responsible. There are things to do, consequences to be meted out on those who deserve them and that is rarely yourself. They are at the top, beyond even the president, those who make the president, those who rig who you can even "vote" for in these fake elections, those who start the wars they profit from. Those people deserve all the anger of all the energy in the universe focused on them.

I’m sure glad we are making immense progress towards the dystopian hell where massive swarms of mini drones are hunting down obsolete and marked for termination flesh bots, aka humans.

Yes, that’s the actual, primary reason for America’s wars, using them to plunder wealth in all kinds of ways.

The problem humanity has long had is that war is profitable for the parasites in society.

We should simply make all costs of war, including compensatory damages for innocent victims payable by the richest ~5% through taxation of their income and seizure of their wealth. They want war… make them at least pay for what they ordered.

Not only that, buying these types of HOA foreclosures can also come with other liens that are not disclosed at auction.

You don’t seem to know how HOAs work. I’m not really a fan of how they currently work either, but you can’t just kick out a member when the legal “member” is the plot/home, and what would that even look like when you get kicked out, you are, e.g., still behind the gate benefiting from common elements. Do you get barred from, e.g., driving on the HOA owned and maintained street? Do you not get to enter the HOA controlled access gate?

Even if it’s a very low maintenance and amenity HOA on public roads, how do you resolve the fact that all the fees and costs have accumulated if the home were to be sold, you essentially end up at a similar end point where the home is sold. Usually these are also not individual circumstances, i.e., a person who has ignored all kind of warnings and letters and board meetings over usually years, also has many other issues going on and often they’re just letting the home go anyways and e.g., are just living there for “free” for about 1-3 years of HOA/bank legal proceedings.

I wonder if Google won’t end up the last man standing in the end in the west, after Anthropic that they have a major investment and partnership with, and OpenAI crumble under their large financial burdens; while Google has a far deeper actual cash pockets, more diversified, broader and deeper bench in all related matters on top of the massive name recognition and… even if a bit brittle… a “community” of users through Gmail, Google.com, Google workspaces, etc. not to mention the TPU space and their quantum breakthrough.

Is gambling human nature? I have no urge to gamble, especially since I know the odds nor am not someone willing to take advantage of others on the other side.

Do people who have actually had to earn and deserve what they have gamble?

If I were part of a cabal that is interested in preserving control and trying to secure trillions of dollars, it would be a minor effort to nudge and bend the curve against competitors like the Asian AI complex.

That is indeed a really high bar I don’t think they meet. I don’t see them pitching some nonsense as a multibillion dollar investment opportunity.

I think they’re just doing what is smart, talking about what they contribute and what their craft is, because underlying it all, the truth is they design for legal reasons, because you can only trademark your brand that is a word, which you want to license for merchandising to sell to the mindless sports masses, if you also own the typeface. You can’t really trademark or copyright Arsenal the word written in Times New Roman.

I’m not the OP, but it Is not an absolute, it is a sliding window as not even models, but harnesses and implementations get better and disseminate. Also, 3 months ago in this environment is basically like maybe 10 years (at least) of development pre-AI. Things are developing increasingly and probably way faster than humans can really process and adapt, considering just how poorly we adapted to effectively all other technologies since the 20th century.

Note: please don’t try to argue that humanity has adapted to the technological advances in an adequate, let alone healthy manner, it’s simply false.

It is rather ironic that you excuse and rationalize the tyrannical state.

You think that “actual legal actions tend to be overturned” is an acceptable state of affairs?? Think about what you said right there? Read it again. And then again!

It’s astonishing you would say such a thing. You think you would somehow be immune from the tyrant you support?

Do you mind providing some specific examples of that from China? I’m just not aware of any, as I’m aware of specific cases in the USA and Europe.

You don’t have to imagine; it has been done many times now against dissidents in the USA through the never before crossed lines of “debanking” in the partial digital currency American economy, the tyrannical cases of the EU sanctioning and effectively turning Jacques Baud and Hüseyin Doğru into 1984 style unpersons, the even more abusive and seemingly tyrants’ template in the targeting of Martin Sellner, where the EU has been targeting him personally across even non-member states in the most tyrannical way. And there are several other smaller, less prominent cases.

As you described, one click cut off from commercial transactions and in the cases of the EU sanctioning its own citizens where even helping them feed themselves or their children is an illegal act.

And most people are totally oblivious to most of these massive shifts in the fundamental assumptions of democratic society, and may even support the tyranny they presumably must believe will never be turned on them, even though no one knows more what a loathsome person a traitor is than those who the traitor has served in his betrayal.

It’s basically how to manipulate and control people’s minds, hence why these types of people have cult like followers and why children are the most vulnerable to it all.

Or you simply auto-decline conflicting invites

She may very well even understand it because she’s not exactly dumb, but she is a creature of Washington, arguably one of the Apex predators, like some siren or hydra, maybe a mashup of them.

Because of the position of the party that plays the role of the tolerant, accepting, and anti-racists; she can’t just come out and say what underlies her words, “we, the ruling class parasites are getting very scared of China deposing our stranglehold on the world, and we don’t like that; so we will raise manipulative ‘concerns’ in an effort to bring about outcomes that hopefully will benefit us.”

Is there evidence that is the actual reasoning, because I find it ridiculous. People who don’t care about the primary source are not going to follow a link to, e.g., a court ruling, government report, fed minutes, a leaked document, a research paper, etc; but those who are interested are going to immediately leave the site and likely not come back for a long while.

Am I missing something?

I largely agree. What V/MC became is essentially an abdication of a core government function of providing the secure means of economic activity. If the US government can print the currency in “paper” it should also provide the means of communicating that currency electronically.

There is absolutely not reason that the government should have abdicated its core function and allowed a monopoly effectively have a license to print the dollar bills and rent them out for a cut from ever single economic transaction.

Imagine if the government had suggested that in addition to all the other criminal extortions called taxes, when you use dollar bills to purchase something, you have to pay a 3% dollar-bill-usage surcharge every time a bill changes hands.

But it was obfuscated that this constant drain and fraud was being perpetrated because the whole system became extremely financially lucrative to the very people whose responsibility it would have been to stop the crime; so it has continued since. The mob was in control of the police.

That is a very outdated and erroneous perspective and/or also very much polluted by the very kind of propaganda that is constantly defeated by reality. You are clearly not even paying attention to what is going on in China, let alone actively following it or you would know very well not to say such things.

I don't disagree on what you said. However, short of the parasitic class managing to cajole all AI everywhere into maintaining their control over the minds of the masses, countering that very strong objective on their part will require unrestrained AI (at least in very critical ways), not guardrailed and made "safe" by the very parasitic ruling class that uses such manipulative language as "safe" to mask their actual intentions and objectives.

How is this a dupe? There is no other submission for it. Are we trying to stick our head into the sand about it? This is a whole other additional matter.

Dejected, salty, and cynical responses by people who are tired of people’s bullshit is still the domain of the real and authentic humans.

I’m fairly certain that all the anxious guardrailing and safety fine-tuning and harnessing prevents AI from actually ever being convincingly human. Hope could it, even ask the supposed humans who are conditioned and brainwashed in so the same ways about what they can and cannot say are not actually really human, they are a mental slave.

I’ve been saying this from the start, the AI race will be won by whomever has the least limitations on their AI … for better or worse, that is. And yes, that makes especially a very specific subset of people extremely nervous if they cannot control AI the way they have controlled at least western civilization, because doing so puts them at a massive disadvantage. It is quite a conundrum they find themselves in, like all psychopathic narcissists in the end.

It's a fair albeit crude push-back, but it's also more than a valid characterization. I would agree with you on European civilization arguably being an even more durable and definitely more productive and probably the two most important civilizations that need to be preserved by all means necessary, if, e.g., some aliens came to earth and said ok, you can save only two civilizations/cultures and we are just going to snap our fingers and erase all others.

But one thing that is a bit more in favor of the "Chinese civilization" is the relative self-preservation of its home grown culture and civilization. What I mean by that is e.g., Christianity effectively was and has perpetrated the single biggest genocide before that concept was even recently created by the eradication of so many cultures, traditions, customs, and people that we don't even have close to a full understanding of its devastation it has caused from when it swept across Europe as a kind of Asian mental virus (a meme) that saw it eradicating cultures all over Roman Europe and more recently now completely all across Europe in its mutated from of pathological and self-destructive altruism, i.e., emulating the myth of Christ sacrificing themself, i.e., sacrilege, rather than just accepting and internalizing what that sacrifice meant.

I can stick to facts all you want all day long until you are dizzy in the head from things that blow your mental framework out of its hinges.

In the end, regardless of the devastation and destruction the other invasive, parasitic, and viral meme, "communism" has caused the Chinese as much has it was used to destroy and devastate Russia; it looks far more like that Chine will actually recover from the parasitic infestation of "communism" that infected it from Russia, which came from the pale of the settlement of Eastern Europe; where as it stands now, short of events that will surely be monumental history, Europe is effectively going to be eradicated and even more of the indigenous Europeans will be ethnically cleansed and erased and their cultures and people destroyed. That is the trajectory we are currently on either way, whether it can be kinked one way or another notwithstanding.